Raspberry Pi 3 is being sold now.

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  • #118488
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    I should have one in 3-12 business days.

    I imagine that, with it having a 64 bit processor, it should run a Pi 2 RetroPie image fine, but would show improved performance if everything is built from scratch? That or compiler errors?

    Assuming that my Pi3 really arrives, is there something in particular that I can report on, in the interest of contributing back to this project?

    #118490
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    I’d like to know how well the n64 and PSP emulators work ๐Ÿ˜€ Oh and maybe the Saturn one to Hehe

    #118494
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    Will it actually run the RetroPie image for Raspberry Pi 2?

    #118498
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    kahnindustries
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    Ha, came here to make a tongue in cheek post demanding that the Pi 3 version should be out already ๐Ÿ˜€

    Mine will be here tomorrow

    #118499
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    My guess is a new build will be required for the 64bit architecture. I wonder how much driver issues this will be accompanied with.

    I guess herb isn’t getting any time off soon :p

    Ordered mine so if I can help test I will!

    #118514
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    #118515
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    There will be no “rpi3” build – the rpi2 code will used currently. if raspbian do a 64bit version of the os, this may change.

    #118517
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    Even without a specific 64bit build the speed gain should be noticeable.

    Also wondering how far it overclocks now.

    #118519
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    The “safe” overclock for the pi2 is 1.0 Ghz, so my guess will be 1.3-1.5 will be the “safe” overclock for the pi3. I’m just hoping this helps big time with the n64 and psp emulations!

    #118520
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    this may mean i’ll have to look into setting up the N64 tomorro to test, are there any vital topics/threads i’ll need to read up on?

    #118521
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    Best bet is probably the wiki page on it: https://github.com/retropie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/Nintendo-64

    #118522
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    https://www.element14.com/community/community/raspberry-pi/blog/2016/02/29/the-most-comprehensive-raspberry-pi-comparison-benchmark-ever

    Very few of his comments regarding the speed improvement of the Pi 3 vs the Pi 2 seem to add up. His tables say one thing and his comments say another. How about this, taken from the article’s MemTester section:

    2 Model B 23 minutes 39.07 seconds
    3 Model B 8 minutes 37.078 seconds

    “In this case the Pi 3 is more than 50% faster than the Pi 2 at allocating and accessing RAM.”

    While technically true, the actual performance improvement is 174%. ๐Ÿ˜›

    #118523
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    Best bet is probably the wiki page on it: https://github.com/retropie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/Nintendo-64

    ok, thanks mate

    #118538
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    #118551
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    bought! pretty incremental improvement but i think a few things should be pushed over the line as most things we deal with are CPU-bound. i’m hopeful for powerdrive and afterburner type games running better/perfect, PSX at double-resolution mode with no slowdown, and N64 improvements (maybe even becomes ok to use GlideN64 plugin all the time?), but the lack of GLES3 is a shame. no vulkan or anything like that.

    #118555
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    Well on a non-overclocked system it is a 30% processor increase.

    Not quite sure how and if a 64bit release of the emulators will matter but hey, they will never hurt I guess.

    Silly question: will 64bit apps run on a 32bit OS? I remember OSX running stuff 64bit while the actual kernel was still 32bit.

    #118562
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    Just ordered one as well. Excited to see where things progress in the future with the new capabilities.

    C..

    #118564
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    Well on a non-overclocked system it is a 30% processor increase.

    No, it’s actually roughly a 60% increase. If it was just a clock frequency increase, you’d be right. However, the Pi 3 uses a different and improved CPU core (Cortex-A53), which by itself improves performance by roughly 25%. In some cases (and with recompiled code), the performance improvement should be even larger.

    #118565
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    Bought. Hopefully here tomorrow.
    I like the sound of the inbuilt Wi-Fi and Bluetooth. I’ll have to see if it happily works with the 8bitdo controllers.

    RetroPie help guides --> https://goo.gl/Yfy8kj
    Please read this before asking for help --> http://goo.gl/eLErnl

    #118566
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    Well on a non-overclocked system it is a 30% processor increase.

    No, itโ€™s actually roughly a 60% increase. If it was just a clock frequency increase, youโ€™d be right. However, the Pi 3 uses a different and improved CPU core (Cortex-A53), which by itself improves performance by roughly 25%. In some cases (and with recompiled code), the performance improvement should be even larger.

    Yeah I was (without much dedication I must admit) trying to look up the specs to the Pi2 chip to compare but gave up ๐Ÿ˜›

    I sort of like the yearly releases (are they yearly?) as they sort of give me something to look forward to. The past 30 years are slow but every years we get faster!

    #118577
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    I’m trying to boot a card with Retropie 3.5 on my pi3. No luck.. Took it from my pi2. Maybe there’s something I need to tweak or it might not work.. ?

    #118578
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    make sure you update it on the rpi2 first (sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade).

    I can’t advise further until I receive mine.

    #118588
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    What site are you using to buy the pi3, I need to make sure the psu is a good one this time?

    Thanks

    #118591
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    retroresolution
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    Ordered mine from RS Components in the UK today, hopefully being delivered tomorrow.
    Really hoping for full-speed 32X, enhanced resolution PlayStation on most or all games, and more playable n64 titles.
    If I can help with testing, please let me know.

    #118592
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    What site are you using to buy the pi3, I need to make sure the psu is a good one this time?

    Thanks

    Guess that would depend on where in the world you are.

    I’m in the US and ordered from canakit as no one else had them in stock when I ordered.

    mcmelectronics has it listed but server is dragging so I can’t see if it’s in stock.

    C..

    #118593
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    It was in stock on MCM when I looked a little bit ago, but shipping was $8. I decided to wait until they’re a little more readily available.

    http://www.th3rdwave.com/tracks/
    ^^ my other hobby

    #118595
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    Hmm, 64bit architecture, will this affect the compatibility with old emulators or will it just increase the performance?

    Anyhow, can’t say no to a new Raspberry pi, so, bought! ๐Ÿ™‚

    #118596
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    #118620
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    Well this makes me happy, and sad. I just bought my fisrt Pi bout 3 weeks ago…

    #118628
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    I’ll bet – it’s odd that the Pi 3 just suddenly arrived – maybe people were ‘in the know’ given the Pi 2 released same time last year, but first I heard a about it was an email this morning from The Pi Hut.

    Thought I’d better get one quick in case of the usual supply/demand issues (that said RS Components showed 17,000 in stock this afternoon…)

    #118632
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    It sounds like a great excuse to make a new project from last month’s Pi.

    Perhaps you know of a car that needs a touchscreen Kodi console? That bathroom mirror could become one of those smart mirrors.

    If you have a Pi 2 now, the 3 will fit in the same cases.

    #118706
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    Agreed a bit strange how they just suddenly released this with no mention or hype. I only bought my Pi2 in December. Am ordering Pi3 from RS Online. At least i can use the case/fan from my Pi2.

    I’m just hoping the built in Bluetooth will finally resolve everyones bluetooth problems, and just maybe the N64/Dreamcast emulator will be able to run smoothly for Goldeneye/Virtua Tennis! Fingers crossed.

    @floob will you be updating the Wiki for set up on Pi3? Is there any talk of building retropie with 64 bit architecture?

    #118708
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    a 64-bit version of raspian (the underlying OS) would need to be be released first, and there doesn’t seem to be any immediate plans for that that i can find.

    #118729
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    My Pi 3 and uprated PSU have a arrived (2.5a, 5v). Want to get cracking, but can’t just yet – frustrating!

    [Edit] apologies for the rotation on the pictures – look okay on the tablet, but must be a meta-flag only, leaving some of the photos sideways or upside down…

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    #118739
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    If GoldenEye runs at a playable framerate I’ll be ecstatic…
    I’d like some idea of the overclock thresholds before I start turning up the speed.
    If there’s no imminent new Raspbian build then I can’t look to rasbpi-config for guidance. I’d better start googling.

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